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ya, but the good Sizemore is actually remarkably similar to the Good Andres Torres

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Posted by JoeDaddy on 2011-11-04 13:40:57

In Reply to: I don't see the "AT&T is not a hitters park" angle unless your a HR/fly ball hitter. Otherwise, there is plenty of room for doubles and triples.
posted by Psyched on 2011-11-04 13:13:27

where his unusually high power output is what compensates for the lower BAvg/Contact rate.

If you take that away from either of those guys, their skill-set looks MUCH more pedestrian. We saw what that looks like w/ Torres' production last yr.

In theory, speed guys like Torres and Sizemore could makeup for the loss of HR's at AT+T w/ more doubles and triples...but the hard truth is that the NL -- and the NL West specifically -- have bulked up on uber-quick defenders in the last couple yrs which has generally cutdown on the amount of extra bases available to speed guys.

I mean, just look at the RF'ers in the bigger NL West ballparks. Andre Either is really the only guy who is borderline substandard and even his Defensive problem is more about his angles/instincts than actual playing speed AND he's flanked by Matt Kemp in CF. Justin Upton flanked by Chris Young in AZ , Seth Smith flanked by Dexter Fowler in COL, Will Venable flanked by Maybin in SD...all those guys can RUN and take away extra base opportunities.

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So, if you could only sign one of- Sizemore 1yr/7mil, Crisp 2 yrs/12mil, or Beltran 3yrs/45mil, who would you sign? - Psyched 2011-11-03 21:45:53 (50 views)
- Sizemore and then sign Prince for $25m - Hoser 2011-11-04 19:16:16 (44 views)
  - I think it's doable if - Earl j. Slick 2011-11-06 08:09:26 (26 views)
- Sizemore. Hope he performs but either way CF is Brown's job in 2013 - darragh 2011-11-04 11:59:29 (21 views)
- Just don't think Crisp is worth the $. Too lateral, not enough obp out of the lead off. Would much rather either GS or Beltran or both... - MoonMan 2011-11-04 11:24:14 (36 views)
- Carlos - Bdogg 2011-11-04 10:55:44 (20 views)
- Not too excited about either guy. - Monte Irvin 2011-11-04 09:44:14 (47 views)
  - Cleve gave up Sizemore cause his option was like 9mil, too risky given his health and their payroll issues. I'll take him for 5 or 6, if he checks out. - Psyched 2011-11-04 10:50:41 (28 views)
    - 5 or 6 M a YEAR? - Monte Irvin 2011-11-04 12:02:01 (42 views)
      - doesn't really matter, doubt Sizemore would come to AT&T - microwave donut 2011-11-04 12:55:30 (49 views)
        
        good point - DJ 2011-11-04 13:20:06 (39 views)
        
        I don't see the "AT&T is not a hitters park" angle unless your a HR/fly ball hitter. Otherwise, there is plenty of room for doubles and triples. - Psyched 2011-11-04 13:13:27 (22 views)
        
        ya, but the *good* Sizemore is actually remarkably similar to the *Good* Andres Torres - JoeDaddy 2011-11-04 13:40:57 (51 views)
        
        really good point on the CF-RF's in the NL West - DJ 2011-11-04 14:03:05 (32 views)
        
        the NL West is a pretty unique division overall...always thought that was why it's generally underrated - JoeDaddy 2011-11-04 14:13:15 (32 views)
      - Say 2mil guaranteed, 6 with incentives. - Psyched 2011-11-04 12:06:29 (23 views)
        
        plus they say he's not really a center fielder anymore. Which would be important in AT&T park. - Monte Irvin 2011-11-04 12:21:27 (28 views)
        
        If they dont sign Beltran (which is highly likely) id sign GS for around 2+incentives, then Ross for around 4. Platoon Sizemore/Ross, play the hot hand. Brown next year. - Psyched 2011-11-04 12:25:31 (19 views)
- Beltran. Even at his age, he much more of an impact signing. - Hawk_941 2011-11-04 09:00:49 (17 views)
- It's almost like you have to want Beltran first because Crisp and Sizemore don't supply power - gwarriors 2011-11-04 08:00:01 (18 views)
- great question. I might do it in the order you listed - one flap down 2011-11-04 06:02:09 (36 views)
  - if you could do Sizemore or Crisp AND Beltran, it would add enough to I think let you play Crawford at SS - one flap down 2011-11-04 06:12:38 (28 views)
    - Agreed, signing both Crisp and Beltran would be a successful offseason.. - Ghost Dog 2011-11-04 06:36:46 (41 views)
      - I think you guys would be happier with Torres and Cody Ross in CF than Crisp. Believe it. - juan 2011-11-04 06:54:09 (107 views)
        
        Sizemore deal would be - MadRussky 2011-11-04 08:56:09 (42 views)
        
        a line-up w/franchez, beltran, buster, and the panda wouldn't be too shabby..don't like beltran's lackadaisical attitude, but he would help our offense a great deal.. - skontch 2011-11-04 13:15:04 (24 views)

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